Not new but none better..... here we see two older Tim Brydon seedlings of the hybrid of Oda. Tiffany X Oda. Joe's Drum. Tim played a seminal role in sourcing fine breeding Odonts in England and bringing them back to San Francisco. He tracked down key plants from Alan Moon, Keith Andrew and Brian Rittershausen as well as literally dozens of Mansell & Hatcher's finest flasks. Tim has focused his hybridizing on strong patterning plus large whites with dark markings. There is a consensus that Tim's crossing of Odm. Jim Mintsiveris, named for his father-in-law, is the unchallenged leader in whites with intensely dark markings. One of the keys to the success of this particular hybrid is the genetic input from Odm. Nicky Strauss, which Tim was able to extract from Bert White at Stonehurst. We can be sure that Tim will be continuing to produce new and exciting hybrids from his Pacifica greenhouse.